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Califnative brings up the topic of aliens in the webcam forum.  UFO's are always being reported to be interested in military bases and NPPs and frequently visiting them. Will they be visiting Fukushima?  UFO's as aliens might be a touchy subject because that could get someone or site labeled crazy.  On to history, I'll double down on you, Califnative.  I worked with an archeologist for almost a year helping him organize his pictures of Egyptian sites for a lecture and photo presentation, admired his field work but disagreed with many of his personal findings tailored to mainstream academia.  He specialized in Egyptian hieroglyphics and I added to my knowledge of symbols and language.  I attended many lectures on Egypt learning that mainstream science hates speculation unless they’re the ones doing it.  Here I go a little off-topic with some of my own speculation.

Consider, we went from caves to nuclear in ten thousand years. We could have done it before, maybe even a few times over the millennia.  I think we knew aliens long ago, good and bad ones.  I think our leaders have had recent contact with some of them. Mining history is a real secret, all that gold and uranium needed by primitives to build technology we can't do today. Mined mountains and then pyramids could have been cooking up uranium to produce plutonium, gaining a hundred fold energy efficiency using plutonium as a power source rather than just uranium fission/steam power like we do.  A war was fought, Plato reports Solon saying the Egyptians told him the Greeks won, but had forgotten. Indian vedic texts speak of vimanas and ancient war.  Following the war was a great cataclysm, Atlantis disappeared.  We also refer to that time period as Antediluvian, before the flood.  Nuclear war so upset the balance that the Universe rained rocks and lightning down to restore the earth.  Periodic cometary bombardments have happened and earth suffers more when its magnetic shield is weakened.  Aliens left before the earth was struck.  Human survivors in deep holes, also known as secret bases, carried some technology forward but they don't have much to do with surface dwellers except to take what resources they want.  Just like some of our military plan to survive any war they unleash.  Aliens come back to see what we're up to and take any resources they want, too.  Surface dwellers crawled out of their caves and have forgotten their history and seem to be learning harsh lessons again.  What could we have learned if we knew how to measure background radiation before we started adding more to it?  Mars is said to have had two major nuclear events as recorded in atmospheric xenon isotope readings and radiation scans of the surface.  

So to answer your question Cali, I think there's UFOs piloted by aliens and by antediluvian survivors of a great war/cosmic bombardment and by surface dwellers recently rediscovering ancient technology we once possessed.  A better question might be, are we going to make the same mistakes as before?
"The map is not the territory that it is a map of ... the word is not the thing being referred to."
(07-22-2017, 08:02 AM)piajensen Wrote: Understanding that the bible was written by men centuries after the alleged life of Jesus, I have to say I am now a great skeptic. Anyone can write anything - controlling the masses has always been the goal of the elite.
You might enjoy Carotta's theories of the new testament. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesco_Carotta I think I have links to his works, but another time maybe.  The old testament, well maybe, a layered, coded diary of exiled Egyptian elites and family feuds.  Pharaoh was god to his people, O lord forgive me for doubting your greatness, make me ruler in your stead; yet another rabbit hole for some other time.  

(07-22-2017, 08:02 AM)piajensen Wrote: I think the greater question is not whether aliens exist, but rather, are we still slaves of the elite. I think we are.
Until we look beyond the narrative, the storyline we've been fed, we will remain slaves.  I can't say I've found truth yet, hard work to question and do some research; for most, believing lies is so much easier.  I wouldn't want to interfere with a person's free will to believe what they want, but I do enjoy exercising my free will when someone asks.
"The map is not the territory that it is a map of ... the word is not the thing being referred to."
Great Caesar's Ghost, Pia, I think it was St. Paul that made a mess of the Book.  Illius had many followers in the army and the elites wanted their loyalty.  Augustus declared himself god, but the army held to their hero.  The senate had murdered the reformer.  Elites don't give up land and power easily.  Deception was used to turn the man into myth.  A deep rabbit hole indeed.

Fun fact, scrolls were used to store and convey information, JC started using books as they were easier to carry in the field. Followers became known as people of the book.
"The map is not the territory that it is a map of ... the word is not the thing being referred to."
I have found no archeological evidence for a man, Jesus.  Jews have fabricated some evidence but it hasn't held up to scrutiny.  Evidence for St. Paul, well he's buried under the Vatican.  The Roman religion controlled land ownership.  They placed a dedicated stone somewhere, declaring a certain god controlled a circle extending out from the stone.  To own land a person would have to be part of the religion of that god.  Julius offered his men land by accepting them into the religious order of things.  A competing religion, Mithras was spreading into the empire threatening Roman control.  Jewish uprisings also threatened Roman control.  The Jews were an ally of the living Julius.  They were the last ones mourning at his funeral pyre.  They were unsure if their freedom and usury would continue under Augustus.  Julius was declared a god upon his death and his comet was a sign in the heavens.  Augustus goes to great lengths to remove the Flavian dynasty, and be the god-ruler of Rome.  The army was accepting the Mithras religion after Julius was murdered by the senate, The Jews wanted their people to continue following their god Yahweh, The Romans wanted their gods to rule, Zeus, et al.  This sets the stage in the battle for the hearts and minds of the people.  The Romans were very accepting of other gods as long as their gods were revered; as were the Greeks.  The Jews were not accepting of any other gods, they claimed theirs to be the only one.  Mithras was a mystery religion from the east that was gaining popularity among the common people that were disenfranchised from the other three.  Many Latin texts remain telling of Julius’ campaigns in Gaul, his death, and the many funeral rites to honor the man.  A comet seen by the multitudes in the coliseum while mourning his death, Julius’ comet may be the origin of the star of Bethlehem story.  The texts were in Latin.  They were translated into Greek reaching the rest of the world.  The Greek language strips some meaning from the Latin.  The Jews translated the Greek texts of this god story into Hebrew, mistranslating campaigns and persons into god-like healings and transposing Roman place names for Palestinian place names.  Certainly Saul the Roman who had an epiphany on the road to Damascus and became Paul the Jew knew of the Latin texts and saw the connection to the Jewish copy.  A small sect of the Jewish religion advocating more tolerance became the Christian religion with Paul leading the way.  Christianity borrows from and replaces the Mithras religion.  The battle rages down thru centuries until Constantine edits the Hebrew texts into the Bible extant we have today and makes it the state religion of the Roman world.  The mistranslated Hebrew texts are translated back into Latin, the language of the Roman world.  Full circle, there are now two very different Latin versions of the story of the god Julius/Jesus.  Centuries later King James of England authorizes an official English translation.  Julius the man becomes Jesus the god.  Roman Catholic leadership knows this and some popes have admitted as much.
"The map is not the territory that it is a map of ... the word is not the thing being referred to."
UFOs are everywhere in ancient symbols and stories. A Pharaoh goes out to meet the occupants of a craft that lands near his city.  In the bible, the story of Ezekiel stands out as a UFO contact story.  The web is full of information from Baalbek to the uncovering of Gobekli Tepe some ten thousand years old.  A high civilization existed with monuments we can't create today and for purposes we don't understand.  Mankind's story is older than we know.  I myself have never seen a UFO but I think many have.  Some knowledge of Tesla's work and an increasing understanding of the forces of nature leads to new technologies that can defy gravity and do maneuvers that some unidentified flying craft are reported to be seen doing.  Surface dwellers don't often get to see too much.  Big secrets are right out in the open being kept secret.  The Electro-Magnetic force is much stronger than the Gravitational force.  We live in an Electric Universe and we don't even have a grasp of what the gravity is that we've assumed holds all matter together.  The Nuclear force has given us technology we can't yet control.  Surface dwellers don't know much.
"The map is not the territory that it is a map of ... the word is not the thing being referred to."
Nuclear Tunguska
by Doug Yurchey
Quote:The concept of an atomic blast in Tunguska of 1908 might be more believable if one considers that there were ANCIENT nuclear wars. This is another wild and crazy idea for the educators. But, there is one person who was very much an advocate of such a notion. That was J. Robert Oppenheimer; the Father of the Atomic Bomb.
During a college lecture, Oppenheimer was asked: 'Was the atomic test at Alamagordo the first nuclear blast?' The student meant: Was there a U.S. program before Alamagordo? Oppenheimer answered: 'Yes, in modern times.' The creator of the A-Bomb meant: Our atomic program was the first, not counting the ancient nuclear wars of the distant past.
Oppenheimer was a student of the old books of India; such as the Mahabharata, Bhagavad Gita and the Kansur. Some of these holy works pre-date the Bible. They are not fictional stories. They are history. They speak of flying vimanas. Vimanas were real vehicles and the origin of the 'flying carpet.' Great wars were described in these early texts. Weapons could literally level the land like a moving force field. In ancient India, we find words for certain measurements of length; one was the distance of light-years and one was the length of an atom. Only a society that possessed nuclear energy would have the need for such words. When Oppenheimer said 'I am become the destroyer of worlds,' he was quoting from these ancient books. Believe it or not, the deserts on a number of continents today are the result of (prehistoric) nuclear warfare.

He also had access to some of the earliest data on the pre-atomic background radiation levels and composition.  I’ve often wondered if radioactive fallout from an earlier event some 10 -12 thousand years ago might not account for the slow rise of populations in the past and the importance of fertility rituals in past cultures.  It would be a shame to have to go thru that again.
"The map is not the territory that it is a map of ... the word is not the thing being referred to."
"I cannot write about all the villainies of the demons; and I feel ashamed to speak about them at length and in detail, for fear of harming the more simple-minded among my readers."
~ Evagrius Ponticus

Horse: "We live in an Electric Universe and we don't even have a grasp of what the gravity is that we've assumed holds all matter together. The Nuclear force has given us technology we can't yet control. Surface dwellers don't know much."
The link to nuclearpyramid  describing the Great Pyramid as a nuclear reactor has recently gone stale, I found it in the Wayback Machine.  

Quote:The Great Pyramid at Giza

Abstract: The complexity, precision and size of the Great Pyramid are contrasted to the simplicity of pharaohs’ tombs. It is proposed that it is a plutonium mill. Its perfection of construction and choice of materials are compared against all other pyramids. The current history of plutonium production is related. The internal geometry of the pyramid is given correspondence to the process steps of breeding plutonium, separating plutonium from other material, disposing of radioactive waste, using water and producing hydroelectric power. The practical value of plutonium and the economic justification of the pyramid are discussed. Later attempts by the Egyptians to recreate the power and value of the pyramid are analyzed. Scientific methods for testing whether or not nuclear fission occurred within the pyramid are defined.
"The map is not the territory that it is a map of ... the word is not the thing being referred to."
Never heard of most of the stuff here. Always felt 100% certain we're not alone, though.
Probably because I got to see those fabulous starry nights in the SW of France.
The Milky Way puts everything in perspective.
Let's keep watching Fuk., Horse is the best watcher these days.The repositioning of the cam and the view of the site it showed is truly amazing... for a webcam watcher!
30'' in https://vimeo.com/459358012
Take care all
Thanks Felibi, everyone should try to get a glimpse of the Milky Way at least once in their life.  The lights of modern life drown out the stars that fill the night sky.  I can barely see the major constellations in the city, but the view up in the mountains on a cold night is spectacular.  

Modern science has a pat answer for the things we see in the sky, but perhaps they don't have the right perspective yet.  The Electric Universe cosmology offers a different view, that of plasma physics.  

Quote:I can find no way to state this diplomatically, so let me be blunt: The modern astrophysical concept that ascribes the sun’s energy to thermonuclear reactions deep in the solar interior is contradicted by nearly every observable aspect of the sun.
Ralph Juergens

There are hints that our solar system may have been much more active and dynamic than what we see today.  

The Thunderbolts Project

The link to Mars past was also stale, Here's a link to the pdf in the Wayback Machine.
Evidence for a Large Anomalous
Nuclear Explosions in Mars Past
J.E. Brandenburg
"The map is not the territory that it is a map of ... the word is not the thing being referred to."

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