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Nuclear energy and environmental justice
Taiwan government maintains nuclear phase-out

http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/Articl...-phase-out
 
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“…Meanwhile we are faced with the revolting spectacle of defense executives licking their lips at the thought of profiting from the construction of weapons capable of killing a million people more or less instantaneously….

“My mind is full of visions — skin sliding off human faces like a strip of bark, the bodies of children melting, babies turned to charcoal dust….

“The peace of 1989 was a lie. Hundreds of millions of us could die an instant because we have created Satanic engines of destruction that cannot be employed in the service of any just cause and refused to destroy them forever.”

https://theweek.com/articles/821193/horr...ear-policy
 
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Why nuclear power will never supply the world's energy needs

https://phys.org/news/2011-05-nuclear-po...nergy.html
 
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Review comment from Cross Currents by Robert O. Becker (1990-12-01):

“…In 1990 he published this book outlining possible avenues for using electromagnetic means to enhance healing. However, the book also is a wake-up call regarding the sea of electromagnetic radiation we live in. He focuses on the un-natural fields and their potential interference with the natural fields we evolved in. The un-natural sources are radio, TV, WiFi, microwaves, cell phones, appliances and a host of other sources. The problem, he claims, is a lack of good research on this radiation which is non-ionizing. We all hear of the dangers of ionizing radiation, for instance from radioactive materials and X-rays (for political as well as scientific reasons), but do not hear much of those electromagnetic fields which have biological effects, because their mechanisms are not well understood….”

https://www.amazon.com/Cross-Currents-Ro...B01F9Q5IF6

“…The environment is now thoroughly polluted by man-made sources of electromagnetic radiation with frequencies and magnitudes never before present. Man’s activities have probably changed the earth’s electromagnetic background to a greater degree than they have changed any other natural physical attribute of the earth. The evidence now indicates that the present abnormal electromagnetic environment constitutes a significant health risk….:

http://www.sunypress.edu/p-1353-electrom...-life.aspx

“The greatest polluting element in the earth's environment is the proliferation of electromagnetic fields. I consider that to be a far greater threat on a global scale than warming, or the increase of chemical elements in the environment.”

― Robert O. Becker

https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/...t_O_Becker


“…twice-nominated for the Nobel Prize in Science, Dr. Robert O. Becker, has stated emphatically that ‘all forms of man-made electromagnetic radiation, regardless of their specific frequencies are hazardous.’

“The reasons stated for this are they

(1) adversely affect developing cells,

(2) promote the growth of cancer cells,

(3) act as a carcinogen,

(4) cause disorders in developing fetuses,

(5) disrupt brain hormones,

(6) influence suicides/abnormal behavior,

(7) interrupt physical cycles (stress response) and weaken immune function, and

(8) deteriorate academic ability.

(Robert O. Becker, Cross Currents)…”

http://electromagneticsafeplanet.com/wp-...n-Body.pdf
 
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The 5G rollout is a weapons system as much as it is a communications system.  This post really belongs in the thread Dude started.  It would add a good citation to the thread’s coverage of non-ionizing radiation.  See Dude’s thread.  http://caferadlab.com/thread-2734.html  

This quote was interesting.  

Quote:http://www.sunypress.edu/p-1353-electrom...-life.aspx

“The greatest polluting element in the earth's environment is the proliferation of electromagnetic fields. I consider that to be a far greater threat on a global scale than warming, or the increase of chemical elements in the environment.”

― Robert O. Becker

He forgot to mention radioactive elements.  Ionizing radiation increases the electrical conductivity of matter.  It is a far greater threat to our health and environment.  Ionization of materials temporarily increases their conductivity, potentially permitting damaging electrical current levels.   In general, the higher in frequency in the spectrum, the more energy, the greater the damage it can do to normal matter.  Global cooling will prove far worse than global warming.  And this,

Quote:“…twice-nominated for the Nobel Prize in Science, Dr. Robert O. Becker, has stated emphatically that ‘all forms of man-made electromagnetic radiation, regardless of their specific frequencies are hazardous.’

True enough, I would definitely try to limit my time in a strong electrical field and keep my distance.
"The map is not the territory that it is a map of ... the word is not the thing being referred to."
 
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(02-01-2019, 02:19 PM)antirad Wrote: Those are just averages and published by a government who wants to keep making nuclear bombs.  Even so these averages are from July 2002, 9 years before the terrible meltdowns at Fukushima.  Other nuclear facilities were also damaged at the same time in Japan--those nuclear facilities were damaged beyond repair  The fallout circled the earth every 40 days and settled on the earth in very uneven patterns.  The fallout especially comes down during rainfall or snow or sea spray.  And it only takes one hot particle to cause a genetic mutation.  There are already over 6,000 genetic diseases among humans that are inherited by future generations and passed down to offspring for generations.

The nanoparticles from depleted uranium weapons or Hanford and other nuclear waste or from nuclear energy reactors every day but especially every time they change the fuel cause the most mutated babies in the original locations, but those nuclear spread elsewhere. even worldwide.

Of course there is extremely wide variation between all the over 2,000 nuclear isotopes between a number of different variables.  But even the ancient peoples knew that areas of natural uranium caused death.  And the cosmic radiation in Australia is much higher there than near the equator and higher in higher altitudes.

Radiation is inimical to life and is not necessary for life.  There are many chemical reactions in the human body, and all  radiation from the lowest level acts in synergy with toxic chemicals that is the whole is greater than the sum of the radiation and a toxic chemical.
The nuclear industry counts on these variables to deny liability for harm.

"Of course there is extremely wide variation between all the over 2,000 nuclear isotopes between a number of different variables. But even the ancient peoples knew that areas of natural uranium caused death. And the cosmic radiation in Australia is much higher there than near the equator and higher in higher altitudes."

Statements such as this... And the extensive EMF documentation you present here, in "Biological Impacts", simply contributes to the nuclear power industries defense. Absence of proof. Too many variables. Could have been... etc..

And the banana dose lies.

Déjà vu

Please note the header : Biological Impacts; Nuclear Energy and Environmental Justice
 
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Forum slide. Topic dilution. -2

Antirad, If you are interested in maintaining a collegial atmosphere and the integrity of this forum, move it here: http://caferadlab.com/thread-2734.html
 
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Hi HHD, nice to see you. The topic is Nuclear Energy and Environmental Justice. We should try to keep ionizing and non-ionizing radiation separate, thanks. The banana doses lies are not the bananas fault, I'm taking up the cause of the banana. Two different things, K-40 in a banana is not harmful. Man-made radionuclides are harmful. My client is innocent until proven guilty. Free the banana from the nukers.
"The map is not the territory that it is a map of ... the word is not the thing being referred to."
 
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Agreed.

Potatoes matter.

https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm
 
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Bandazhevsky....50 bq/kg from cesium causes heart disease, while the healthiest animals to ever live had 70 bq/kg of k40.


   
"The map is not the territory that it is a map of ... the word is not the thing being referred to."
 
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(02-19-2019, 02:07 AM)Horse Wrote: Bandazhevsky....50 bq/kg  from cesium causes heart disease, while the healthiest animals to ever live had 70 bq/kg of k40.



ECRR lists a figure that is only 1/3 of the 70 Bq/kg of K40 which I think is your figure.  Please quote Bandazhevsky.  I'd like a citation that he ever stated that figure.

The Implications of The Massive Contamination of Japan With Radioactive Cesium
Steven Starr

“...Highly-radioactive fission products such as Cesium-137 and Strontium-90 emit 10 to 20 million times more radiation per unit volume than does Potassium-40....“

https://ratical.org/radiation/Fukushima/...Starr.html
 
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(02-19-2019, 02:27 PM)antirad Wrote:
(02-19-2019, 02:07 AM)Horse Wrote: Bandazhevsky....50 bq/kg  from cesium causes heart disease, while the healthiest animals to ever live had 70 bq/kg of k40.



ECRR lists a figure that is only 1/3 of the 70 Bq/kg of K40 which I think is your figure.  Please quote Bandazhevsky.  I'd like a citation that he ever stated that figure.

The Implications of The Massive Contamination of Japan With Radioactive Cesium
Steven Starr

“...Highly-radioactive fission products such as Cesium-137 and Strontium-90 emit 10 to 20 million times more radiation per unit volume than does Potassium-40....“

https://ratical.org/radiation/Fukushima/...Starr.html


Antirad, here's another quote from Bandazhevsky, the toxicity of radio-Cesium is well established and I can't find any studies that show K-40 has any toxicity to compare to that.  We have significant amounts of K-40 in us and around us, yet it causes no harm.  The nukers draw a straight line from Cesium to Potassium and say Cesium is no worse than a bunch of bananas.  The nukers have never shown any harm comes from K-40.  This calls into question the nukers use of LNT to assign harm or risk.  
https://ratical.org/radiation/radioactiv...ky2009.pdf
Quote:"significant pathological changes were observed in organs and systems with an incorporation of Cs-137 over 50 Bq/kg. At the same time, metabolic disturbances, especially in the myocardium, were observed at a concentration of Cs-137 as little as 10 Bq/kg"
"The map is not the territory that it is a map of ... the word is not the thing being referred to."
 
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Horse, TY for the citations.

Off Topic: I had trouble with my facebook account, but it was just an automatic request for a photo on my home page when I tried to past a Mercola article about flaxseed, weight loss, and cancer prevention on a group page for a Weight Loss Challenge at the YMCA. My account came up last night and I found the article posted to my home page but when I tried to again post the article to the group page, I got asked for a photo again which I had already submitted. The only photo I have is of me in 1964 holding my new born son.
 
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(02-20-2019, 04:48 PM)antirad Wrote: Horse, TY for the citations.

Off Topic:  I had trouble with my facebook account, but it was just an automatic request for a photo on my home page when I tried to past a Mercola article about flaxseed, weight loss, and cancer prevention on a group page for a Weight Loss Challenge at the YMCA.  My account came  up last night and I found the article posted to my home page but when I tried to again post the article to the group page, I got asked for a photo again which I had already submitted.  The only photo I have is of me in 1964 holding my new born son.

Perhaps I missed something, but what is the relevance of your troubles with your Facebook? And who is in need of this information?
 
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