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To dump Tritium or Not
#1
There's an issue with the recent news reports about TEPCO supposedly planning to dump waste water from tanks directly to the ocean and the fact that a few people are disturbed by the idea and don't want it to happen.

TEPCO has already been dumping waste water - both treated and untreated - into the ocean. And then there's the daily leakage through underground waterways that the ice wall will never succesfully block.

It's disingenuous of all parties to slant this story as: "TEPCO Plans to Dump Tritium into the Pacific Ocean."

TEPCO, with the blessings and backslapping of the IAEA, has dumped 10s of thousand of tons of radiation contaminated water into the Pacific Ocean for several years. They break it out into three categories.
  • Drain to port
  • Drain to harbor, and
  • Drain to ocean
It all ends up in the Pacific Ocean.

The radioactive waste water contains more than just tritium and quite frequently the filtration system that is supposed to "clean" that waste water only removes a few types of isotopes. To what degree that equipment actually removes isotopes is anybody's guess. TEPCO doesn't provide much in the way of data.

Thanks to all the corrupt agents involved, the Pacific Ocean is already stressed and fisheries contaminated.
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#2
Tepco recently repaired the underwater border fence that was supposed to keep fish out of the port. Four or more months with a big gaping hole. Its probably a good thing Tepco kills them with tritium before that bio-accumulated cesium and strontium hits a dinner plate. It just doesn't seem like a good thing to keep letting them dump their problems onto the rest of the world.
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#3
17 July 2017: Plan to discharge Fukushima radioactive waste water into Pacific Ocean cancelled http://www.straight.com/blogra/937681/pl...-cancelled

"A plan to release radioactive waste water from Fukushima into the Pacific Ocean has been cancelled, according to reports.

Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) had made a decision to release tritium-tainted water, which was injected to cool the damaged reactors in Fukushima, into the Pacific Ocean.

Tritium is a radioactive isotope of hydrogen. The health risks of diluted tritium-laced water has been debated in the scientific community, with some scientists stating that it can be safely released and is of little danger unless ingested in large amounts while others argue it remains a health hazard.

Local fishermen opposed the decision, fearing that negative publicity would impact their livelihoods. 
The plan to release the water required the approval of the Japanese government.


After disaster-reconstruction minister Masayoshi Yoshino also warned the decision would create challenges for Fukushima fishermen struggling to reestablish themselves, the Japan Times  reported on July 15 that TEPCO reversed its decision to discharge the water into the ocean.

A Japanese government panel is still facing the task of figuring out what to do with approximately 580 barrels containing 777,000 tons of tainted water stored at the nuclear facility where three reactor cores melted after the 2011 earthquake and tsunami disaster."
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I would guess that the leaking will continue.   The tepco reports keep saying beta increasing.  The melts keep producing more radiation problems.  Public outcry at a massive dump stopped 'em for now.  Seems they try to get a dump every year.  If Tepco treated water was as safe as they claim why do they want to dump it off-site?  Tepco doesn't want to store the tainted water for a hundred years, or a couple half-lives.  Can't do it openly so the trickle will have to do.  Let the nuking of the Pacific continue forever.  Can't the fishermen see that Tepco is trying to get the place fixed up as fast as possible for the Olympics?  

Fukushima's Radioactive Water Leak: What You Should Know
By Patrick J. Kiger, National Geographic News
PUBLISHED August 9, 2013
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/...ater-leak/
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#5
Yeppers, forever leaks ahead... quirky thing about their declarations on the beta increasing - they always say no significant fluctuations since the previous analysis...but, they should be making an assessment based on the first , fifth, tenth analysis, not the most recent ones. So disingenuous.

The tanks threaten to burst (due to the degradation effect of bombarding isotopes on metal). They want to avoid accidental dumping. As if that would be worse than intentional dumping. Their so concerned with how people perceive their actions that they've lost their way and are teetering on a mess of future failures for all their lies and piss-poor management.

The fisherman have been brought into the fold, so to speak... invited to meetings, told that their input was valued, given financial perks. Probably been given more than financial perks to keep them so calm.

Sigh.
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(07-19-2017, 04:08 PM)piajensen Wrote: The tanks threaten to burst (due to the degradation effect of bombarding isotopes on metal). They want to avoid accidental dumping. As if that would be worse than intentional dumping.
That would be worse from their view, a toxic waste spill on site or spilling it all safely out to sea.
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#7
Until you fix the root problem, all other bandaid attempts will fall woefully short. Just like we are witnessing now.
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(07-20-2017, 09:30 AM)LWH Wrote: Until you fix the root problem, all other bandaid attempts will fall woefully short.  Just like we are witnessing now.
True, but where do we start?  What is the root problem?  We can't neutralize radioactive material yet, we only know how to move it from one place to another.  Abe wants an Olympics like his daddy had to show the world how great Japan is under his leadership.  Because radiation is invisible to us mere mortals he can force his people to move back into the disaster region and suffer the radioactive contamination.  Business leaders put profit concerns over safety concerns.  What can't be turned into instant profit is dumped somewhere out of sight and forgotten.  The nuclear-armed nations would not join the rest of the nations to slow the rush to destruction.  The root of the problem may be the kind of people we let make our decisions for us and their personal goals vs. common goals shared by most of the rest of us.
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#9
I was thinking the root of the problem was having nuclear, but I think Horse is correct, it's the people.
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#10
New TEPCO executives tripping over their tongues http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201707200050.html

Hoof in mouth disease. Or, maybe it's old age, or foggy brain from radiation exposure. I wonder how close these old, well-paid men actually get to the site...
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