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#21
No, you're not immune to Covid after you catch it. The long haulers are all still sick from March and have no immunes or Tcells to fight it again. The comorbid whom made it out the other side are still at risk, now, more so. And what of those youngsters whom were symptomless, contagious and now have no antibodies? Will they show symptoms the second round? Will there be a third? And yes, we all saw something going around this winter. Perhaps that was round one...

There is a reason they locked down and it ain't the flu. The knew, they know.

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It's bad-man-made...they been talking about this "fix" confidently for more then 20-30 years..if not longer...i assume they did not just passively chat about it..or constrained themselves to genocidely protecting and Re-empowering the zionist infinite economic growth warprofiting sulfur stenched fork faced(duo) monopoly extermination machine..by making "democratic elections" a dead by humiliation hypocrisy scam etc.. 

Total population control/squeeze by the rich for the rich...NW0...depopulation..AI singularity/5G..etc

These are the goals they are thinkthanking like forever about with stolen unlimited funds to "work" with..and a shared sociopathic +bribed and blackmailed mindset doing the "solutions-seeking".. 


How Billionaires Get Away With Their Big Con - 

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/07/10/...r-big-con/

Put yourself in the place of the heir to a multimillion-dollar fossil fuel empire, a situation akin to the “heroic” brother and sister who inherited a railroad from their dad in Ayn Rand’s novel Atlas Shrugged:

+ If you don’t have to pay to dispose of cancer-causing byproducts from your refineries but can simply vent them into the air, you make more money.

+ If you can cut wages and threaten employees because they don’t have a union, you make more money.

+ If you can run a pipeline across sacred Native American land atop a major national aquifer with minimal safety oversight, you make more money.

+ If you can hide your money from the IRS because the agency has had its budget slashed so badly that it can no longer do expensive audits of morbidly rich people, you can keep more of the money you’ve made.

+ If you can get the government to cut social programs and public education, thus lowering your taxes, you can keep more of the money you’ve made.

So how do you pull this off, when every one of these things hurts average Americans?

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They put everything evil in this multitool-Franken-WMD-virus...

Herpes can't be cured, but it can hide dormant, smiling patiently keeping an predatory eye on our immunesystem in the nervesystem..waiting to Grimm reeper party again..

I suspect this invented by dr Mengele like sociopathic sadist's with a gawd complex shit can do simular.. 

Pollution keeps increasing and food degenerating..it's a matter of time..isolation will slowly lose its benefits.. 
"Rounds"..as above so below..both within the individual as for the masses...those lines will blur overtime..imo

We are being Culled..it should be the other way around..we are not the desease..capitalisme is..it molds every innocent baby in to psychopathic adults..competing to get in the cullers club. 

Blue wave no matter what libtards and Stanford experiment freedumbers..enablers pitched against each other to enable..unite and take on everyone with more then 10 million..NO MORE of that!!!!! 
Install democratically chosen Bernie Sanders or someone simular with a visible warm blooded HEARTBEAT to reinvent HUMANITY..

We Are All Dead Already..NOTHING left to lose but our souls DARNIT...
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#22
Dude, too late for the Bern.  The Democratic party elite did not want the Socialist in power.  They chose to give us Biden, the senile, who will do what the puppet masters want him to do.  The globalist puppet masters want us to submit willingly to their domination.  They're destroying America to convince us to remove Trump.  America was bankrupted to extend their power over the rest of the world.  Russia and China still resist Western bankers control of their economies.  Rightly so when you look at what they've done to the people in the West.  I'm watching the little guy shrink in living standards and health.  

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HHD, I think they knew in 2018 when the Fort Detrick Biolab was shut down because of too many incidents of loss of containment.  The 2019 summer vaping epidemic looks a lot like Covid-19 symptoms.  They hadn't told us its name, but Bill Gates held seminars on a novel Corona virus pandemic.  The blame was to fall on China.  The only cure was to be a vaccine.  In 2020 unusual pneumonia became Covid-19.  They know more about this virus than we are being told.  Natural immunity to most Corona virus doesn't last long, about 2 -3 months, that's why you can catch a cold several times in a year.  This made a cold vaccine impractical.  From the paper you cited, a Covid-19 vaccine would last at most 3 months.  Will we need a jab four times a year?  I smell profits.  I haven't lost my sense of smell yet.  Will it work as well as the Flu vaccines do?  Not a great track record to go on.  Not the seasonal Flu, this is the killer Cold.  It attacks every part of the body.  It can lay dormant and come back with a vengeance.  It acts like an airborne HIV, slowly destroying T-cells until the immune system fails.  Each infection will do some more damage.  Each vaccine will stress and overwork the immune system till it can't mount a defense against all the other things we need immune defense against to stay healthy.  Those long haulers have more work to do now to avoid infections 'cause its in circulation.  Normally a virus will weaken in the wild and run its course.  That won't come fast enough for many.
"The map is not the territory that it is a map of ... the word is not the thing being referred to."
 
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#23
The narrative is nearly backwards.  How can anyone say you arent immune?  Covid kills because of over active immunity. 

That article, and many others like it seem to push the idea that the immunity goes away and so we will all need endless vaccination.  This is not even supported by the ambiguity in the article, like this quote "The study concludes, “Convalescent COVID-19 patients without detectable antibodies might not indicate the loss of immunity to SARS-CoV-2 reinfection."

So at best they should say "we dont know".   But in fact they do know that innate and adaptive immunity is functioning to one degree or another.  The person without any immune function is going to be dead in days no matter if they have covid or not.  

You may have protective T cell 'immunity'  but no testable antibodies


“We found that if you have a mild case you can be negative for antibodies afterwards … in those almost all of them had strong T-cell activity. This study says that there are cases that you can have a strong T-cell response even though you have not had antibodies, meaning that you have encountered the virus and built up immunity.”

Natural killer cell activation related to clinical outcome of COVID-19
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/...20148478v1

In another study, they found that the mucous lining of the endothelial cells has enough immune function to fight off the virus and the antibodies are not found with usual tests.  

Systemic and mucosal antibody secretion specific to SARS-CoV-2 during mild versus severe COVID-19
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/...1.108308v1

The monetary motive of big pharma is happy with the 'no immunity' narrative, and not happy with the nuanced reality of the situation.  

People in control want immunity passports, tracing and digital ID stamps and everything else.  But you cant put the enormous complexity of immunity and the global web of life into a stamp, a yes or no human decided stamp.

"Most importantly, the persisting antibodies in asymptomatic individuals only reacted to N, not to

S1 antigen. Correspondingly, the titers of neutralizing antibody in asymptomatic individuals were
very low and decreased rapidly, which indicate that the effectiveness of antibody-mediated
immunity could not be used to guarantee the accuracy of an “immunity passport” or “risk-free
certificate”

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/...l.pdf+html

Viral load is emerging to be quite an important factor.  The more viral load, the worse off.   And how do you reduce the viral load so that your body can mount an efficient immune response?   One thing would be antiviral spray, like betadine.  Another would be taking the sick out of enclosed spaces.   Another is to have a healthy biome.   Another is to be intelligent about vaccination, because "Vaccinated children were also significantly more likely to be diagnosed with an immune-related disorder. The risk of allergic rhinitis (commonly known as hay fever) was over 30 times higher in vaccinated children, while the risk of other allergies was increased 3.9 fold and the eczema risk was increased 2.4 fold."

Then there is the huge issue of health and coinfections.  A study found that for societies eating cultured veggies like sauerkraut that each gram per person resulted in a 35% reduction in covid severity.  Another study found that slow walking was a bigger risk factor than obesity.  And obesity is a big risk factor.  Another found that tests done ten years ago on 'inflammaging'  could determine risk for severe covid reaction. Other studies find a big link to air pollution.  More factors include nuclear fallout, asbestos, societal stress etc.   

So it becomes clear that covid-19, while likely being  a 'gain of function' lab escape, is also a symptom of a sick and aged society.   So there is no focus on the virus, no focus on vaccines or lockdown methods which will cure this.   That, in my mind, is an extremely important take away message.   The influence of mankind has created a sick ecosystem, a polluted unbalanced living interlinked global system.  Societies are also 'sick'.   Lifestyles are sick, with most people spending 90% of their time locked indoors.  Politics is a sick thing full of sick people.   Those researchers with political people behind them who spend their lives devising biological weapons are sick.  The financial world, the pharmaceutical world, the agriculture world...all of these sectors of our uncivil civilization are sick and so regardless of covid, we are going to pay the price.    And thats where we can look for the covid cure.    I dont think the needed overhaul is going to happen. 

for a different perspective on viruses and covid, I enjoyed this interview with Dr Zach Bush

https://thehighwire.com/doctor-who-predi...swers-all/
Disclaimer: The information present here is not to be taken as medical advice. It is only present here for entertainment, educational or research purposes. 
 
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#24
"The monetary motive of big pharma is happy with the 'no immunity' narrative, and not happy with the nuanced reality of the situation. "

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Yes, of course they are, that does not mean we are to allow ourselfes to play Russian roulette with this novel thing as long as it is not scientifically proven either way, just because we rightfully hate the usual deficit conscious hyjackers with selfish interest.. 

And why is not 100% of the globes population tested by now..heads should literary roll for that alone already..another possible indication they are all potentially implicit...just like we saw with the global Cover-Up of the criminal and omnicidal severity of Fukushima and the nuclear-civilian-military industry in general.. 


Can you catch Covid-19 twice? A doctor suggests herd immunity could be wishful thinking - Vox

https://www.vox.com/2020/7/12/21321653/g...d-immunity


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#25
Llamas—Yes, Llamas—Could Help Us Fight Covid-19 | WIRED

https://www.wired.com/story/llamas-yes-l...-covid-19/
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#26
Dude, from your link, that Doctor has a pessimistic view of Covid-19 being a chronic, untreatable disease.  

https://www.vox.com/2020/7/12/21321653/g...d-immunity
Quote:First, the trajectory of a moderate initial infection followed by a severe reinfection suggests that this novel coronavirus might share some tendencies of other viruses such as dengue fever, where you can suffer more severe illness each time you contract the disease.

Second, despite scientific hopes for either antibody-mediated or cellular immunity, the severity of my patient’s second bout with Covid-19 suggests that such responses may not be as robust as we hope.

Third, many people may let their guard down after being infected because they believe they are either immune or incapable of contributing to community spread. As my patient’s case demonstrates, these assumptions risk both their own health and the health of those near them.

Last, if reinfection is possible on such a short timeline, there are implications for the efficacy and durability of vaccines developed to fight the disease.

It may be so, but don't give up.  Before he had a vaccine to tout, Dr. Fauci thought Hydroxychloroquine the most effective at early onset and to prevent serious infection.  HHD has presented some evidence that treatments such as NAC may help alleviate some of the serious effects.  Code just posted a good video, a 'terrain' doctor instead of a 'germ theory' doctor.  What I gathered was advice I'd already received; Statins bad, Flu shots bad, cover my ACE2 pathway with nicotine, avoid and purge toxins, Iodine good, have no fear.  That advice goes against most of modern medicine as they practice it today.  Overall death rates haven't risen dramatically, they're at average normal yearly deaths.  Time will tell us more, but in the meantime there is a war on the people that is using Covid-19 as a reason to isolate and destroy the human spirit.  

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/07/gary...an-spirit/
Quote:We are in the midst of an attempt by the oligarchs to eliminate the human spirit, and if this attempt is successful, the singular majesty of the human experience will have been abolished, and only a technocratic black hole of emptiness and despair will remain. This is the essence of a failed society brought about by the destruction of human intellect by state education, mass propaganda, and the planned control of individuals through physical and psychological manipulation due to fear.

The worst scourge of humanity are the psychopaths hiding among us, leading us to ruin for their own pleasure, destroying any trust humanity might build for itself.
"The map is not the territory that it is a map of ... the word is not the thing being referred to."
 
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#27
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for a different perspective on viruses and covid, I enjoyed this interview with Dr Zach Bush

https://thehighwire.com/doctor-who-predi...swers-all/
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Yes, thanks for posting that Code. 
Why don't we have vision like that in charge..sigh..

edit - fixed link
https://thehighwire.com/doctor-who-predi...swers-all/
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#28
Detox ! 


Dr. Zach Bush - New York CoVid Comorbidities' op YouTube

https://youtu.be/Y0SOnJTmNjY
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#29
The theory in that video suggests histotoxic hypoxia induced by attachment of the virus on small particulate air pollution exacerbated by the use of statins and ACE inhibitor drugs. 

Interestingly, histotoxic hypoxia can also be caused by methanol, as explained in an article reporting that the FDA has recalled 69 brands of hand sanitizer because of the methanol ingredient. 

histotoxic hypoxia is caused by formic acid.  The industrial chemical trichloroethylene causes formic acid production in the body.  Trichloroethylene was historically used as an anesthetic.  It is used for a variety of things and is an ecological contaminant.  "Groundwater and drinking water contamination from industrial discharge including trichloroethylene is a major concern for human health and has precipitated numerous incidents and lawsuits. Exposure to TCE occurs mainly through contaminated drinking water."

Other things causing it include formaldehyde, acetone, and certain anesthetic agents.
Disclaimer: The information present here is not to be taken as medical advice. It is only present here for entertainment, educational or research purposes. 
 
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#30
Damn addicts


   "It’s also become more popular than ever, benefiting from religious-like claims and beliefs about its effectiveness against COVID-19 despite not even having the power to cure the common cold."
   Are they suggesting there is a cure for the common cold? Flu shot?

  "Because it’s a form of hope against the fear of the deadly coronavirus, medical experts say."                 They don't do that with vaccines?
    
      “The molecule – ascorbic acid – is not easy to work with and has properties that make it difficult to understand. Therefore, it has a long history of misunderstanding in the scientific community and medical practice.”
    "Clinical trials involving COVID-19 vitamin C treatments are pending and could take years before reaching conclusions."
     
     I see, not enough time and money for that.. kinda like the disinvested communities. But hey got billions for vaccines to wildly rushed through... understood.

       https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/202...403847002/
 
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#31
A culling pro-lifer..they seem to live with/by/propagate the shizo-psychopathic idea that wiping Satan's arse with the Bible makes them good Christians. 

Anybody voting for anyone inside the duopoly extermination machine is either a complicit psychopath or so uninformed that it makes no difference.. 
And specifically..african muricans for Joe after what he did to you in his 40 years off billwrtings against you..you almost makes me racist too..

Cant yall see these are the last elections,( if we make it till then anyway) before this becomes a giant concentration camp..the two evils working together to get there? 
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Anyway..squeeze them till they die..when the moment arrives..it might be helpful to "assist" with a little culling..can't have them walk away from their slave deathbed..and capitalisme altogether.. that has been so good too us, politicians/demagogues for personal wealth..nono, cull them and let the last forced upon them lie be that they are "heroes" 
Signed GOP/DNC and half their masters here.. 


The 1 Percent's Quarter-Trillion Dollar Tax Cheat - Too Much Information

https://sirota.substack.com/p/the-1-perc...ion-dollar

The other half would be the MIC..and OLD money.. 

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Trump administration’s sudden shift on COVID data leaves states in the lurch | Salon.com

https://www.salon.com/2020/07/19/trump-a...h_partner/

North Texas Counties Report at Least 433 Babies Test Positive for COVID-19 Since March – NBC 5 Dallas-Fort Worth

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/coronavirus/...h/2409971/


On Tuesday, in testimony to the Israeli parliament, Dr. Udi Kliner, Sadetzki’s deputy, reported that schools—not restaurants or gyms—turned out to be the country’s worst mega-infectors.

(Again, this should be of interest to Americans who have been told by a presidential tweet in all caps that "SCHOOLS MUST OPEN IN THE FALL!!!")


‘The Second Wave’ of COVID Hits Israel Like a Tsunami

https://news.yahoo.com/second-wave-covid...29002.html


Gov. Mike Parson: “These kids have got to get back to school.... And if they do get COVID-19, which they will — and they will when they go to school — they’re not going to the hospitals.... They’re going to go home and they’re going to get over it.”..


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#32
where does the 1% death rate come from?  seems to be off by a few orders of magnitude

Belarus                      513 deaths          population of 9.5 million             0.0054 %
 U.S.                   145,000 deaths           population     330 million            0.044 %  
Germany deaths       9,182  deaths         population 83 million                  0.011  %
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#33
much of that long lasting damage to the lungs brain and heart is caused by reactive oxygen species...free radicals.  
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7266475/

In a not-for-profit motivated world, people would be getting hydrogen, vit c and more to quench those free radicals


https://www.researchgate.net/post/Potent...r_COVID-19
https://blog.a4m.com/emerging-theories-t...19-puzzle/

inhaled Hydrogen:
The inhalation of concentrated hydrogen gas has powerful antioxidant properties. Inhaling hydrogen gas has been found to:
  1. Reduce oxidative-stress induced damage
  2. Reduce cellular apoptosis
  3. Improve gas exchange in the lungs
  4. Block the production of proinflammatory mediators
  5. Inhaled hydrogen gas may be particularly effective when paired with other anti-oxidative therapies such as IV vitamin C and inhaled glutathione.
Search for making your own hydrogen rich water using magnesium rods and malic acid
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#34
Witches Stitches

Bulldozers and ditches
Is it coming cause they be scratching itches
Silence of the snitches
Match sticks human kindling for the  riches
Arms twisted, conspiracy pitches
Hemoglobin niches, hypoxia is inching
Media blasting witches, deep fake Nixons
What's that hitching, my blood is flinching
Looking over shoulders, no need for wincing 
Linchpin folders, the holders losing existence 
Resistance, a penchant for finishing
Should of gone fishing
Perchance, yeah I'm listing 
Timetable mission, got us vaccine wishing
Its getting dizzying
Mitochondrial division, O2 deficient
Pretty sure we're getting fisted
Trying to listen, ankles bound pissing
This Fall, gone missing


https://academic.oup.com/jb/article/167/3/233/5652097

"As described below, recent publications have reported that mitophagy controls the maintenance and inheritance of mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) in the maternal germline and embryos. It is thought that oocytes have a mechanism that maintains healthy mitochondria across many generations because mtDNA are subjected to high levels of reactive oxygen species that produce frequent mutations and deletions, due to oxidative phosphorylation in mitochondria "
 
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#35
(07-23-2020, 10:44 AM)Code Wrote: In a not-for-profit motivated world, people would be getting hydrogen, vit c and more to quench those free radicals.  

Not just profit, in this case it's also political power over peoples lives at stake.  People would be getting all the things they need to stave off Covid-19 and live healthier lives free of the toxins created by industry, if that was the political will.  Instead of being governed by 'All lives matter' we are being governed by 'No lives matter' by people who think only their lives matter.  Who owns us?  What are they doing to us now?  Globalists destroying national boundaries to have monopolistic control over everyone.  Too big to fail, we're at their mercy.  

Arbeit Macht Frei, Work makes Free, that's a powerful slogan to get people to go willingly into slavery.  

Election year in the USA, time to win the hearts and minds of the people.  The body now weakened by Covid fear.  The election discredited before it's begun.  No real choice in the matter, no freedom to think, speak, or act.  I've heard Covid-19 described as an obedience virus that reversed traits in the wild. Its the spread of a wild disobedience virus that can't be tolerated.  The right vaccine should fix that and we can all get back to work before economic reset 2.0 hits next year.  I hope I'm still healthy enough to make it thru that.
"The map is not the territory that it is a map of ... the word is not the thing being referred to."
 
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