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COVID-19 thread 2
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Im starting this thread #2  so I can post away without worrying about deluging the normal thread.  Anyone is free to post here of course.

The Covid resources thread has specifics

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Another paper suggesting the COVID-19 is synthetic. 


Corona Virus (CoVid19) Genome: Genomic and Evolutionary Analysis Point Towards Its Possible Synthetic Origin

https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202004.0307/v1

contrast that to the several mainstream articles derogatorily  poo pooing the idea 

Too many articles excusing the Imperial College paper too.  That paper was never scientifically published, not peer reviewed, and as far as I can tell, the model code never released. 

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This paper suggests vigorous lockdown is taking unnecessary lives. Parical unlock could save lives. Herd immunity is balanced against lock down

"Various governments and regions are currently implementing shutdown (or lockdown) rules or recommendations
based on cultural preferences and the number of cases they have. Instead of taking control of the situation from
the pathogen as intended, by the implicit dependence of strategy on cases this hands control right back to the pathogen, and we will show this assures the survival of the pathogen long into the future. "

Partial Unlock Caseload Management for COVID-19 Can Save 1-2 Million Lives Worldwide
https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202004.0239/v2
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What is the problem with a lockdown?  Isnt it flattening the curve and saving lives?

"Aggressive social distancing can extend the timeframe over which Covid-19 patients are infected and hospitalized, but it
cannot by itself reduce those outcomes in the long run. This is because Covid-19 is so contagious that another outbreak
will begin and quickly proliferate as soon as the distancing measures cease"
https://www.justfacts.com/news_covid-19_crucial_facts

If a vaccine or cure does not become available or is not very effective, then natural immunity is the only solution.  Several sources suggest the virus will keep circulating in the population until enough people get immunity and enough old and sick are no longer among the infectious population.  i.e.  many of the vulnerable will die, while the healthy may not notice symptoms.

It is indeed a tragedy.  But as several have pointed out, the lockdown may be causing more suffering and even death than the virus, and the longer its in place, the more dramatic the dire effect.  

Now the only solution is for countries to slowly ween themselves off the control measures to avoid as much as possible more exponential peaks.  Herd immunity is said to require 60 to 70 percent of the population becoming infected.  

Absent from the dialogue is that everyone actually has an immune function.  In that sense, we all have immunity and without it, everyone would be dead long ago.  The real question is how well the natural immunity is working.  The old are naturally at a disadvantage. In particular, the thymus gland undergoes a dramatic atrophy with age.  

The key to fighting COVID-19 is not a vaccine but maximizing health.  Without a properly working immune system, even if COVID-19 doesnt kill a person,  another infection will.
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The problem with lockdown measures and incomplete models of intervention is that people are falsely led to believe the lockdown is eliminating the threat and saving lives.  Two epidemiologists make a plea for honest models;

Maria Chikina and Wesley Pegden
A call to honesty in pandemic modeling

https://medium.com/@wpegden/a-call-to-ho...156686a64b


"Unfortunately, extreme mitigation efforts which end (even gradually) reduce the number of deaths only by 1% or so; as the mitigation efforts let up, we still see a full-scale epidemic, since almost none of the population has developed immunity to the virus."


"The duration of containment efforts does not matter, if transmission rates return to normal when they end, and mortality rates have not improved. This is simply because as long as a large majority of the population remains uninfected, lifting containment measures will lead to an epidemic almost as large as would happen without having mitigations in place at all."

 "no model whose purpose is to study the overall benefits of mitigations should end at a time-point before a steady-state is reached. T"
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The elderly should try to avoid getting infected, but also to improve their health.  Ultimately,  good health is the way to avoid illness, if you are metabolically unwell. What have you gained if you somehow avoid getting sick from COVID only to succumb to other chronic or acute diseases because you are unwell and decrepit? Here, a functional anti oxidant system, maximized by exercise helps avoid the runaway autoimmunity that is the reason COVID-19 kills

"the antioxidant extracellular superoxide dismutase (EcSOD) could have a lot to do with keeping the majority of coronavirus cases mild."

The study says EcSOD hunts down free radicals and protects the body’s tissue from disease. Our muscles naturally make EcSOD, but the study adds that its production is increased by cardiovascular exercise.

https://www.studyfinds.org/regular-exerc...tudy-says/
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The researches who called for epidemiological honesty show that lifting the lockdown for the younger group saves lives.

Modeling strict age-targeted mitigation strategies for COVID-19
https://arxiv.org/abs/2004.04144

The key finding is that relaxing mitigation on younger individuals may have a very beneficial effect on total COVID-19 mortalities and ICU utilization," explained Dr. Chikina.

Coronavirus: Releasing young people from lockdowns could save lives and bolster economy, predict researchers
https://meaww.com/coronavirus-releasing-...rs-suggest

There are many scientists who are saying the same thing.  So the question is, whey isnt this in the news and in the dialogue of leaders.  They are surely aware of it.   One reason could be that they have a monetary interest in delaying the resolution of the pandemic until a vaccine is developed.  They also may enjoy the nearly unlimited dictatorial powers and there is some indication that increased surveillance and decreased rights are being implemented on the pretext of the pandemic.
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One of the latest studies on the effect of interventions.
It seems to indicate social distancing does little to reduce deaths in the long term and that longer and more stringent interventions can have worse outcomes than no intervention at all.  Reducing the overload on healthcare is not to be confused with actually mitigating the disease.
  
Projecting the transmission dynamics of SARS-CoV-2 through the postpandemic period
  1. Stephen M. Kissler, Marc Lipsitch et al
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/e...gures-data

 One-time social distancing scenarios with seasonal transmission.

The blue shaded area is the period of social distancing.  The first graph, is one month, second is two months, then three, then five months, and finally an unending social distance intervention. 

The colored curves correspond to different degrees of social distance severity.  Ro is the reproduction number or how many people one sick person will infect.  If Ro is reduced to below 1, a pandemic naturally dies out. Above one, and it grows. In this model, the Ro only gets below 1 during the summer season and strongest intervention, if Im not mistaken.

The solid line is the amount of infected people (Prevalence per 10,000 people)  and the dashed line is the amount of critical cases.(critical cases per 10,000)

The figures in the right column are the cumulative number of infections. The horizontal line is the herd immunity threshold.

Black line = no intervention
Red line   =  20% reduction in Ro  (a mild intervention level)
Blue line   = 40% reduction in Ro
Green line  = 60% reduction in Ro (severe lockdown)

(A) four weeks, 
(B) eight weeks, 
© twelve weeks, 
(D) twenty weeks, and 
(E) indefinitely




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They tested dept of defense personnel who had been vaccinated for the flu.  They were 36% more likely to get a coronavirus than unvaccinated persons

 Examining non-influenza viruses specifically, the odds of both coronavirus and human metapneumovirus in vaccinated individuals were significantly higher when compared to unvaccinated individuals (OR = 1.36 and 1.51, respectively

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...via%3Dihub
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There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man’s fears, and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of COVID-19. It is an area which we call ... The Twilight Zone.
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cambridge Researchers investigating the virus’ origin analysed a large number of strains from around the world and calculated that the initial outbreak occurred in a window between September 13 and December 7.   An earlier outbreak means intervention is later than assumed and generally not nearly as effective.  But strong intervention results in little reduction or even increased deaths in the long term, according to other models.   The implication, in my mind, is that there is likely much greater infection numbers and a reduced fatality rate, as suggested by several other papers.

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COVID-19 Is A Man-Made Virus: HIV-Discoverer Says "Could Only Have Been Created In A Lab"

Dr Luc Montagnier the man who discovered the HIV virus back in 1983 disagrees and is saying that the virus was man made.

This will be the source of derision by the mainstream because Luc Montagnier studied homeopathy and electronic transmission of genetic information and DNA combination. 

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/covid-1...newsletter

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Nearly a third of renters did not pay their rent on 1st April and 30% of mortgages (15 million) could default, necessitating another bailout for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.  The economic casualty is going in the same bad direction as we have seen in the last decades.  The neo feudalism of super wealth disparity

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In 2017 the US government allowed labs to engineer deadly viruses to make them more dangerous
The NIH's policy shift will allow researchers to take already dangerous viruses and genetically engineer them to be more contagious or deadly. That could mean taking a flu strain or a virus like MERS or SARS and modifying them so they spread more easily or become more fatal.

These types of experiments are known as "gain of function" experiments, since they add new — and riskier — functions to diseases.

The risks of developing powerful, deadly superbugs
Such research is controversial because of concerns that a modified deadly disease could escape into the wild and infect the public. 

https://www.businessinsider.com/nih-lift...17-12?op=1

Interestingly, in a 99% corrupt government, we have a Kennedy going after the vaccine pushers.  It almost seems surreal.

"U.S. Government’s $3.7 Million Grant to Wuhan Lab at Center of Coronavirus Outbreak;
Dr. Anthony Fauci’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease (NIAID) gave $3.7 million to scientists at the Wuhan Lab at the center of coronavirus leak scrutiny. "

"Fauci’s studies alarmed scientists around the globe 
In October 2014, following a series of federal laboratory mishaps that narrowly missed releasing these deadly engineered viruses, President Obama ordered the halt to all federal funding for Fauci’s dangerous experiments. NIAID-funded gain of function research continued after the moratorium in a Wuhan-based laboratory."

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/...-outbreak/

With several studies suggesting COVID-19 is synthetic, it seems remarkably coincidental that all the main players are so intimately involved with both the weaponization and vaccine profiting.  


The Truth About Fauci—Featuring Dr. Judy Mikovits

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/...-mikovits/
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#10
Homeland security did tests that found sunlight de activated COVID in 2 to 4 minutes

https://sports.yahoo.com/sunlight-destro...45675.html
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It will be interesting to see if Bill Gates gets sick with COVID.

Intuitively, it doesnt seem like Fauci, Gates, Trump or Xi Jinping are going to die from it
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One wonders if Kim Jong Un has been covided.
"The map is not the territory that it is a map of ... the word is not the thing being referred to."
 
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#13
Sun, flowers and plants and a joyful life may be the best antidote to COVID-19.  What if a vaccine is not the best solution, what if building health is the only real solution?

"Killing"  the virus is not quite the correct paradigm.  Building and balancing the immune system is a better concept. 

A hyper inflammatory immune response kills people infected with COVID-19.  Ginko Biloba, St Johns Wort,  Nanuza Plicata are some of several plants being investigated for treatment of the coronavirus. 

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#14
To lock or to unlock, that is the question

By allowing the 20 to 40 year age group get infected...

"We show that compared to mitigation of the entire population, the CA strategy reduces the overall mortality by 43%, reduces the maximum number of people in need for ICUs by 62% and decreases the time required for release of 50% of the low-risk population by more than 2 months."

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/...20062687v1
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COVID in perspective;  An extraordinary global response

COVID-19,  is on track to kill around 60,000 U.S. citizens.  https://covid-19.tacc.utexas.edu/projections/

That is on par with yearly flu statistics. 


flu kills 300,000 to 600,000 people around the world per year

The COVID mortality rate, or severity of infection matches almost exactly the age of the population.  It is primarily a disease of the sick and old.  The internal and external environment is polluted and disregulated immune systems go into inflammatory overdrive.   " High levels of air pollution may be 'one of the most important contributors' to deaths from coronavirus with 78 per cent of COVID-19 fatalities in Europe occurring in areas with high levels of nitrogen dioxide"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/...eaths.html


 The media emphasis placed on deaths, even of the young with COVID-19 is not in perspective.   Even though there may be instances of young deaths, the mortality rate is close to zero  https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/global-cov...ity-rates/  .  If the media were balanced, there would be more comparison to other causes of death and the state of health of the planet and its inhabitants. For example  TB is the leading infectious cause of death in the world, killing 1.5 million each year.  https://www.tballiance.org/why-new-tb-dr...l-pandemic
That is about 8 times as many as COVID as of now.  The total deaths due to COVID are not known and may reach that number.  This still leaves the question why there is such an extraordinary media and governmental response to COVID and not other causes of death.

 
Exposure to air pollution, outdoors and indoors, was associated with approximately 4.9 million premature deaths per year, according to the Global Burden of Disease project.  Yet there were no global lockdowns, curfews, bailouts etc due to this killer, which is both avoidable and far greater than COVID.

clean air policies implemented between 1970 and the present – long before the appearance of any pandemic-related measures – enabled Europe and North America to avoid up to 500,000 premature deaths per year.

https://www.sei.org/featured/covid-19-pa...pollution/

Indeed, many of the deaths from COVID-19 are a result of exacerbations from air pollution.

"In China, the drops in pollution resulting from coronavirus shutdowns likely saved between 53,000 and 77,000 lives—many times more than the direct toll of the virus—according to calculations done by Marshall Burke, an Earth system scientist at Stanford University."
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/pol...li=AAggNb9

Amid financial catastrophe brought on by the global lockdown of citizens, the military is doing fine

"In a conference call this week to inform Lockheed Martin shareholders of first-quarter earnings, the company’s CEO, Marilyn Hewson, boasted that the corporation’s “portfolio is broad and expanding” and its “cash generation” strong. She said the company looked forward to “supporting our warfighters’ needs.”"
https://www.globalresearch.ca/multibilli...ry/5710599

As all of this information is available to the average citizen, one can bet that global leaders are well aware of it, and much more. News outlets are also aware with constant access and scrutiny of data.  One can rightfully ask then,  why is there an extraordinary media hype of pandemic armageddon?  Bill Gates is seen on a daily basis, giving his unquestioned expert advice and promise of a fast tracked vaccine which is the only thing to save us.  

Evidence is mounting that lockdowns can reduce peak demand of hospital care, yet cant improve health or necessarily reduce mortality over the long term.
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YouTube has banned any coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts World Health Organization (WHO) advice.

“So people saying, ‘Take vitamin C, take turmeric, we’ll cure you,’ those are the examples of things that would be a violation of our policy,” she told CNN.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/24/youtube-ba...from-site/

That censorship is a great endorsement to start taking vitamin C and turmeric

Like...if you made a paper copy of the benefits of Vit C would they burn it?
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A search for, "trump disinfectant" on you tube...

https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+di...=608&dpr=1

Top of the list...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33QdTOyXz3w
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https://patents.justia.com/inventor/anthony-s-fauci
https://patents.justia.com/patent/9896509
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5564036/
https://stm.sciencemag.org/content/11/509/eaax3447.full
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/1...qI5j-s8KrU
http://www.aidsmap.com/news/mar-2020/exp...people-hiv
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...3418304799
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-rel...rogression
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02712866
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/vaxart...2018-10-04
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/modern...2020-02-25
https://www.maravipost.com/can-africa-tr...-covid-19/
https://www.modernatx.com/modernas-board-directors
https://www.niaid.nih.gov/research/anthony-s-fauci-md
 
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#19
Andrographis

While the world, and western countries especially censor non profitable treatments for COVID, the science and search for natures cures goes on.

Natures exquisite life dynamic is so far beyond mankinds crude narrow minded profit driven gunshot approach to life.
When man can synthesize a 'drug' and package it in a life affirming, symbiotic, solar powered beautiful flower, I will say hes really gotten somewhere.  All of mans chemicals are so far of the 'dead' category, as opposed to the earths living symphony.  The hubris...


"This paper evaluates the compound Andrographolide from Andrographis paniculata as a potential inhibitor of the main protease of SARS-COV-2 (Mpro) through in silico studies such as molecular docking, target analysis, toxicity prediction and ADME prediction. Andrographolide was docked successfully in the binding site of SARS-CoV-2 Mpro. Computational approaches also predicts that this molecule to have good solubility, pharmacodynamics property and target accuracy. "

https://www.researchgate.net/publication...o_Approach


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Life on earth is an integrated network.  "no man is an island"  We exist with and because of the other forms of life, an undeniable fact that somehow escapes the ethos of man and his gunshot approach.  How childish it is for men to suppress and censor information about natures bounty in order to protect their profits from vaccines and drugs.

Bupleurum

"Till the  moment, there are no approved antiviral treatments  for COVID-19. Saikosaponin A,
Saikosaponin B, and Saikosaponin D are major triterpenoid saponins derived from Bupleurum
falcatum L. (Umbelliferae) with valuable pharmacological activities. These active components
exbibit  several  immunomodulatory,  anti-inflammatory,  anti-bacterial,  antiviral,  and  anti-
cancer  effects. We  propose  that Saikosaponins  might  hold the  promise  for the  treatment  of
COVID-19"  https://www.researchgate.net/publication...f_COVID-19

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